I will explain the full procedure of fixation of pay on promotion within the same scale with the reference of Finance Division (Regulation Wing) Islamabad notifications. Here is to mention that the employee who is promoted within the same scale will get 2x increments, 1x Next Above Increment and the other one is Premature Increment. The next above increment was already in vague and premature increment on promotion within the same scale is allowed vide Finance Div Notification No. F.11 (30) R-2/2010-1180 dated 5th November 2012. Here is to mention that the Premature Increment on promotion within the same scale was granted by the Finance Division O.M No. F.2 (8)R-I(1)/80 dated 17-11-1991 and the same was stopped by the Auditor General Pakistan vide letter No. 164/R-I/14C/87KW/267 dated 26-08-1996.
What is Promotion within the Same Scale?
I think many employees don’t know “what is promotion within the same scale”. I will illustrate you with example about the same.
Suppose an employee is working as LDC (SG) BPS-09 and his/her next promotion is UDC that has also the same scale BPS-09. In this situation the promotion of the employee is within the same scale i.e the employee before promotion was in BPS-09 and after promotion he/she is also in BPS-09.
The second example of the same is that Supdt in some departments is in BPS-16 and his/her next promotion is Admin Officer (BPS-16). In this situation the employee also promoted in the same scale i.e before the promotion the employee was in BPS-16 and after promotion he/she also got the same scale BPS-16.
How to Fix Pay in Promotion within the same Scale?
Suppose a LDC (SG) BPS-09 is getting Rs. 12660/- as basic pay and he is promoted as UDC (BPS-09) wef 02-05-2012 then his/her pay will be as under:-
Pay on 01-05-2012 | 12660/- | BPS- 09 (LDC-SG) |
Pay on 02-05-2012 on Promotions UDC BPS- 09 | 13420/- | Next Above + 1x Premature Increment |
If the same employee is promoted on 02-06-2012 then he can opt to pay his pay fixed after getting annual increment as LDC (SG). If he/she doesn’t opt to pay his/her pay on 02-12-2012 he is not eligible to get the annual increment on 01-12-2012 as he/she has not continuous 6 months service as UDC (in new scale). Now the situation after option will be as under:-
Pay on 30-11-2012 | 12660/- | BPS- 09 (LDC-SG) |
Pay on 01-12-2012 | 13040/- | Annual Increment (LDC-SG) BPS-09 |
Pay on 02-12-2012 on Promotion as UDC in BPS- 09 | 13800/- | Next Above + 1x Premature Increment |
Dear Admin,
I was working in BPS 17 in an autonomous organization on regular basis. 2 years ago I applied in FPSC through proper channel ( with departmental permission certificate). Now I have been selected in BPS 17 post and also promoted to bps 18 in current organisation. As I applied through proper channel, the department has no objection and will relieve me. But they are not granting a lien as they say that I am under probation (after being promoted). My question is, will I get pay protection after joining the new department in BPS 17 and will my previous service be counted (which is 6 years now)?
Respected Ma’am,
While working as an Assistant Chief (BS-18) in M/o PD&SI, I applied for the post of Vice Principal (BS-18) in FDE, Isb through proper channel and selected as well. Please, guide me regarding promotion within same scale that whether I am entitled for the benefit of 1Xnext and premature increment or not. Thanks
Assalam o Alikum sir,
Please share Punjab government letter about 2 increment promotion in same scale
I have only Federal Government and there are chances that the same may also be available for Punjab.
Respected Ma’am
Hope you are doing well. I need some clarifications regarding promotion in same scale in terms of direct selection through FPSC.
I was working as Senior Subject Specialist(Economics)/BPS-18 after being selected by PPSC on contract basis. Then I applied for the post of Assistant Chief/BPS-18 through FPSC through proper channel. I was selected. Now please, inform me that my that whether my selection in the same scale will be considered as promotion in the same scale. If it is the case of promotion in the same scale, then whether I am eligible to get 1xNext Above Increment +Premature Increment or not?
Your expert opinion will be obliged highly.
Thanks & Regards
As per the Notification, the re-appointment from lower to higher scale is considered, however you can try to submit your pay fixation case to the accounts office.
Thanks a lot madam for your valuable opinion. But if you through a bit more light on it, it would be great.
Someone has told me that direct selection is also considered as promotion. As you have termed my case as reappointment, so would you like to clarify that whether reappointment is synonymous to promotion or not in may case.
Thanks & Regards
If a Govt employee applied through the proper channel, his selection is considered as re-appointment and hence promotion.
I am still confused. I was selected in the same scale i.e. form BPS 18 (teaching post) to BPS 18 (Administrative Post) instead of being selected from lower to higher scale. So please guide that whether I am eligible for 1XNext Above+Pre-mature Increment or not on account of being direct selection (reappointment) i.e promotion.
According to the Notification that i have only lower to higher pay scale promotion involves. however you can search for the notification where same scale promotion involves.
I was working in BPS-17 by virtue of Selection grade and promoted as SDO in same Scale BPS-17 on 24.07.2001. At the time of promotion I was as second last stage of BPS-17 and while fixation of pay in BPS-17 I was allowed next above stage which was last Stage in BPS-17 hence I could not avail the benefit of per-mature increment. Further the benefit of re fixation after availing annual increment on 01.12.2001 was also not allowed being last stage in BPS-17 resultantly I have to sustain the loss of 2 increments. I applied for revision of fixation after allowing two increments beyond Pay Scale as allowed during 2005 but my request was turned down on th plea that there was np provision in the Pay Scale of 1994 to allow increemnt beyond pay Scale 17 in 1994. Kindly guide if any Rule available be provided.
I am not entitled to get refixation in revise pay Scale 2001 instead of 1994 to aviod financial loss.
At that time only Move over was allowed.
I was appointed as SST BPS 16 in 2005.Then again I was appointed in 2007 as Headmaster BPS 17 through proper channel. In 2014 IWas again appointed as an SDEO Bps 17 I. e same scale through proper channel. Have I the right of one next stage and one premature increment in2007 ? Similarly have I the right of one next stage and one premature increment in 2014 ? Waiting for quick responce
I want to ask an employee working in a Federal government department. He promted from Frash to Naib Qasid (same scale promotion) please let me know whether he is eligible to get same scale promotion benefits i.e. 01 stage + 1 premature increment ?
If he is promoted within the same scale then he will get 1x premature increment and 1 x next above increment.
The Federal Government of Pakistan has allowed two move up to the employees of BPS-1 to 4. Due to this a Naib Qasid of BPS-1 has been placed in BPS-3. Now a Naib Qasid who is drawing pay in BPS-3 is promoted as Daftri in BPS-2.
It is confirm that he will get only one increment of BPS-3 but the department is going to fix his pay in BPS-2 at Next above stage and on arbitration desired to provide a reference to any rule in this regard.
The Finance Department Punjab has issued a Notification No.FD(SR-I)1-8/76-Vol-II, dated 29-04-1984. Would you please help me by giving a reference of any rule in this regard of the Federal Government.
I want to know some information of same scale promotion from Assistant Diector. BPS 18 to permote as a Statistician Bps 18+165
Yes plz share here the details.
Aoaa plz any one can guide me for pay fixation fol case
Scale 14 Basic Pay 25800 annual increment 1050
Date of permotion 01 -09-2017 in scale 16.
Basic Pay of 16 is 27745( ,annual increments is 1450)
Dear Sir
Assalamualaikum, sir I am working in Directorate of Labour Sindh as a senior clerk. Sir in our department assistanto 80% & stenographer 20% quota for the post of promotion superintendent (bs:17). There are only 3 posts of superintendent, sir what is the criteria /method or how to divide these 3 posts in according to 80% & 20% quota.
AOA, plz ye batain Keh 2002 Sept main Meri promotion Hui thi bps 3 to 4, us waqat main nay pay 1 Dec 2002 tk defer nahi krwai kewn kewh donon soorron main 4 scale main usi stage per aa raha Tha, ab 15 yrs baad mujhay joining date 2001 say pehlay ky 2 education Kay increments mil rahay Hain, agar yeh 2 increments mujhay us waqat milay hotay to main pay defer krwata 1 Dec 2002 tk ka aur 2 Dec 2002 main fixation krwata to aik 4 scale main aagay Chala jata, poochna yeh hay Keh Kia ab Jo Meri fixations ho rahi Hain is main main 2002 promotion ki pay fixation defer krwa sakta hoon
how we can adopt option for re fixation of pay on Post Up gradation whose post up graded after 2nd June please proper guide me
Assalamualaikum,
Health department mai Paramedics 09 scale mai appoint hote te Lakin 11-8-2015 ko post upgradation k baad appointment 12 scale ho gaya.
Mujhe option k zrye 01-12-2015 ko Bps 09 mai increment dae kr 12 scale mai upgrade kiya giya.
Ab mai pay fixation k bare Mai pochna chahte hun.
30-11-2015 ko meri basic pay 9500 ta aur stage 3 ta. Ab.
01-12-2015 ko Bps 09 mai BP 9995 aur stage 4 huwa jbke esi mahi ne ki baqaya 360 rs basic pay k mad mai january k mai ne mai diye
Aur January 2016 se Basic pay Bps 12 mai 10355 aur stage 2 lagaya.
Kya ye fixation sahi huwa hai ya nahi agr nahi to mere sahi pay fixation kaisa hona chahiya.
BARI mahrubani hogi.
Madam
A person who was granted slection grade from B 5 to B 7 as L.D.C on 20.09.1987 & further he was promoted from LDC B.7 to UDC B.7 on 28.4.2000 (promotion within same scale) & his pay was fixed @Rs.2695 as LDC B.7 to @ Rs. 2695 as UDC B.7 (Rs 2695 was last stage in B 7)..
Let me guide wheather he is eligible for next stage + increment on above promotion or not if yes how ?
Madam, Please reply ?
the person who is on the maximum of a pay scale and promoted in the same scale how two increments are allowed to him in fixation of pay.
Dear zafar qazu, he will be granted 2x personal Pay (PP).
I am working as UDC (BPS-09) till 25th Feb’ 2016. Later my department promoted my from UDC (BPS-09) to Accountant (BPS-08) (I know you are in shock that this is promotion or demotion). In Military Lands & Cantonments Department the post of Accountant exist in BPS-08 till now. Kindly guide me whether i avail benefits of new upgraded post of UDC (BPS-11) or not after my promotion. It is pertinent to mention here that I have not availed benefits of same scale increment till todate and drawing old pay.
I have joined a provincial department (BPS-07) through proper channel from a federal department, The basic pay which is fixed is Rs.18,910/- and last month our current post has been upgraded to BPS-09, I need to ask a question about the increase in my basic pay, my basic pay is already higher than the initial basic pay of BPS-09, the basic pay of my colleagues (Fresh Appointees) will be increased up to Rs.1,500/- with this their basic pay is fixed from 7749 to 9260 etc.
My Question: May i get get the difference of increase of basic pay?
AoA. My Scale is 15 and Basic pay is 25465/= after availing the annual increment on 1.12.2015. Please guide me what will be the Basic now for Scale 16 from 2.12.2015, and what about premature? More, Scale revised also from 1.7.2016.. so what will be Total arrears including Oct. 2016.
Madam,
A person having two years service in bs 16, resigned and joined bs 14. What will be the procedure of his pay??
i have two questions :-
– my present BPS 23860. tell me total gratuity and per months pension.
– i have passed my FA exam in 1986 and i was promoted as stenotypist on 05-01-1991 (now i m in SG – 14), in the light of my present Basic pay pl tell me two FA increments are included or not in my present basic pay as 23860.
Dear Aziz just see ur service book, the detail of the same would be mentioned in the service book.
Just email me the following:
Ur total service
Age now
Basic Pay
Pay Scale number
Madam, Prior to upgradation of post of LDC, i am working as LDC (BPS-7 by Selection Grade) after upgradation of post of LDC from BPS-5 to BPS-07 i am working in same scale or like as same scale promotion.
My department only allow me one pre-mature increment rather than my pay fixed in next above stage + pre-mature increment, Please advise me my fixation made by my department is correct or wrong.
Dear Tariq Ahmad Khan ur fixation is wrong. U can email me so that i send you the copy of the fixation of a person working in FG. Plz also mention ur department in the email.
Sir,
I am EST(V) teacher. I have got scale 15 from 14 in C.M package in 2010. I know there is no premature increment in C.M. package for Punjab teachers. In scale 14 my pay was 14040/= at that time. In scale 15, there was same stage 14040/=. So, my pay fixed at the same stage means 14040/=. Would I had right to get next stage of pay because of same stage fixation or zero benefit after getting higher scale. please tell me about this situation. Thanks. With best wishes.
Dear Riaz Mahmood, if the same stage comes then the next stage is counted. Your pay will not be fixed Rs. 14040/- u can add one more increment to it i.e next stage.
AOA,main nain 1994 main selection grade BPS-12 say BPS-15, main hasil kia ,pher feb-2002,main moveover BPS-16,and back to BPS-15, under the notification issued from the Govt:and than now upgraded my post from BPS-15 TO BPS-16 FROM 23.12.2011,and retired on.1.4.2012,kia main jis main main premature increment nahi mila,ab batain,kay main sirf 1 increment ka haqdar hoon,ya 2 increments.
Dear Arif Reihan I could not under ur mover over in 2002. Plz intimate me the exact date and send me email with full detail. Thanks
Regular Promotion in BPS-18 on 1-12-2000, pay was at maximum stage. Earlier Selection grade in BPS-18 was granted on 3-4-1994. Since no stage available in maximum pay scale as such no next above or premature increment was granted at time of promotion i.e 1-12-2000. Mover Over in BPS-19 was allowed on 1-12-2001. Deferment in pay fixation can not be allowed. Preemptive pay fixation after grant of selection grade or premature increment as per recent decision of Supreme Court orders of within pay scale is applicable or not. How this pay fixation with existing rules can be fixed to get benefit of promotion please. Thanks.
Dear salim Azad, I think only the notification of Usual Increment beyond the maximum of pay scales stages may be helpful in this regard.
Thanks clarification but it is not applicable in year 2000 when pay was at maximum stage. These usual increment are allowed in year 2005 as such no help within existing rules is helpfull as yet. Thanks
sir,
i was fixed in the scale 4500-125-7000 on 1.1.96 and promoted and fixed in the scale 5000-150-8000 on 1.8.98 and my post was declared surplus in 2001 therefore i opted for vrs in 2002 . now last year , because of a court decision my scale is upgraded to 5500-175-9000on 1.1.96 and promoted post is also being declared in the same scale. but the promoted post carried a higher responsibility than the feeder post. please let me know how will my pay will be fixed on the promoted post on 1.1.98. tks
Dear Ashok, you are eligible for premature increment in this situation as well as the next above.
sir.
thanks for giving the information. please can you just let me know that my pay is 7250 on 1.8.98 in the feeder post what will be my pay fixed after premature increment of 175 it will be 7425 and next stage is 7600. will it be fixed at 7600 and also if possible the OM NO. in this connection . thanks.k.
Dear Ashok, Plz mention ur date of promotion and Basic Pay Scale before and after promotion as well as ur pay.
Will someone provide Government policy on Shaheed Policemen. Whether the legal heirs of shaheed policemen get 75% family pension or 65% pension.
sam scale may promotion ka keya matlab hay?
Dear same scale promotion has been in detailed explained in this topic.
Novermber 2012 me mera upgradation howa hy. Baqayajaat mily hy lekin annual increment nahi mila hy
Dear u ll not get the annual increment unless ur special permission is not granted by the notifying authority.
agar koi contract employee regularized ho jaey tho kia usy dobara joining ki zarorat hoti ha ya contract appointmnt wala joining kafi ha,,,,, reply anyone with proofs plz
Assalam alaikum. Kpk edu empkoyee ke jo scale upgradation howy hy. Us me mujai 12 scale to mil chuka hy lekin annual increment nahi mila hy. Kia me option per annual increment le sakta hon? Aur agr option per me increment na loon. To retirment me mujai increment ka ziada faida melega ya abhi… Rehnumai farmye plz
Dear u not mentioned the date of ur upgradation. Plz send e ur full detail at mine email.
Assalamualikum,
information is required relating payment of gratuity and Leave encashment to those employees having less than 10 years service. in Punjab Esta Code at page # 14, Gratuity & Pension Benefits,
question is this that at what extent the gratuity is to be paid?
These are re-employed persons and got retired at the age of 60years from University service as they were employed on regular basis. Punjab Government rules are prevailing in university (Autonomous Body).
Further quries will be shared after this.
Waiting for comprehensive response from you.
Contact if required will be provided to you.
Dear M Imran i could not understand ur question.Plz send e ur question clearly at mine email. Thanks